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the acting cia director would stumble so badly. do you think if it was an innocent mistake it adds fuel to the fire? >> this was the event took place on september the 11th. the first few days are understandable. you can sort of excuse that. but this far later it is unfortunate. mike morell. he had been senate confirmed at the deputy prior to this. very well respected. there is no excuse for it. this late in the game. these meetings were so important to be making those kinds of mistakes now. >> you say it is not an insignificant mistake that he made. >> no. i don't think so. i mean the administration got itself in trouble. being so assertive on setelevisn and denying the possibility that you add han organized terrorist attack in benghazi. and i think it got inflated and if ambassador rice and others had been determined to say that the well-known video was behind it all i think this problem wouldn't have happened. the subject as you know of great contention. there is still a number of questions. her performance raises a red flag. off
the acting cia director would stumble so badly. do you think if it was an innocent mistake it adds fuel to the fire? >> this was the event took place on september the 11th. the first few days are understandable. you can sort of excuse that. but this far later it is unfortunate. mike morell. he had been senate confirmed at the deputy prior to this. very well respected. there is no excuse for it. this late in the game. these meetings were so important to be making those kinds of mistakes...
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said morale misspoke and that, in fact, the cia deleted references, not the fbi. stay tuned, as they say. joining us now, former u.s. ambassador not united nations, john bolten, andrew mccarthy, former federal prosecutor who convicted the blind shake, and the author of "spring fever." great to have you both here. andrew, your reaction to what is playing out in the nation's capital. this is the nation's capital -- capital of a superpower; right? >> so they s. a lot of misspeaking going on, it would appear. you know, look, it's been obvious from the start here that they tried to play out the idea of this video nobody saw of this being the cause of the atrocity of what happened in benghazi in which ur, including our ambassador, were killed. it's important to get to the bottom of it, and getting to the bottom of it, a comedy of error, should not obscure the fact this is a major advocation by the commander in chief who did not take action in a seven and a half hour siege with assets in place he could have ued to protect americans, and we have this inexplicable result o
said morale misspoke and that, in fact, the cia deleted references, not the fbi. stay tuned, as they say. joining us now, former u.s. ambassador not united nations, john bolten, andrew mccarthy, former federal prosecutor who convicted the blind shake, and the author of "spring fever." great to have you both here. andrew, your reaction to what is playing out in the nation's capital. this is the nation's capital -- capital of a superpower; right? >> so they s. a lot of misspeaking...
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and the cia as we know for years has been there's been friction between the cia and the i.b.i. on matters so i mean you think that this is going to sort of make matters worse by having yet another agency sort of not quite but sort of it competing with the cia. well competition is a tough term d.o.d. has his own missions and those do often get in get in conflict with cia c.i. sees itself and i'll be very very kind of my friends we call him the cling on because they are in star trek or they're you know they're kind of like the cling on their part of the federation but they do their own thing much like you know so they they often do their own thing and they aren't necessarily in sync with d.o.d. so we take great exception and again for your audience to understand my book operation dark heart operation dark heart was going to be done without c.i.'s knowledge we were just going to do it and do it do it under under d.o.d.'s authority so again this is not the first time we'll be the last time that there's conflict and frankly as a deal the case officer we have done a number of things
and the cia as we know for years has been there's been friction between the cia and the i.b.i. on matters so i mean you think that this is going to sort of make matters worse by having yet another agency sort of not quite but sort of it competing with the cia. well competition is a tough term d.o.d. has his own missions and those do often get in get in conflict with cia c.i. sees itself and i'll be very very kind of my friends we call him the cling on because they are in star trek or they're...
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shows the obama administration organized an hour long private briefing the acting director of the cia susan rice herself and the three amigos so all their. sions could be answered but of course they weren't interested in facts or truth or even the impact their behaviors may have an international relations all the three amigos wanted to do was to smear rice so obama would be forced to drop or for kennedy opening the way for scott brown excuse me kerry opening the way for scott brown to get back into the senate as you can see here. susan rice should have known better and if she didn't know better she's not qualified she should have known better i would do everything in my power to block her from being united states secretary of state she has proven that she either doesn't understand or she is not willing to accept evidence based so how could she say five days later definitively there is no evidence of a coordinated al qaeda attack when there is they remove the evidence this is about the role she played around four dead americans when it seems to be that the story coming out of the minis
shows the obama administration organized an hour long private briefing the acting director of the cia susan rice herself and the three amigos so all their. sions could be answered but of course they weren't interested in facts or truth or even the impact their behaviors may have an international relations all the three amigos wanted to do was to smear rice so obama would be forced to drop or for kennedy opening the way for scott brown excuse me kerry opening the way for scott brown to get back...
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our thanks to jennifer youngblood from the cia for getting us that formal comment from the cia. it remains to be seen how many more comments they may have to make if this thing gets into court. >>> i started gymnastics when i was 9 years old and i was watching the 1984 olympics and it spoke to me as if it was like broadcasted directly to me. i immediately took the cushions off the couch and started flipping around. >> joseph putignano's start into gymnastics got serious after that. at the olympic training center just two years later he realized he had a natural gift. but his need to perform perfectly took over his life. >> for me it kind of became a darkness that i have to be perfect. >> reporter: that's where his downward spiral began. >> i had my first drink and all that desire for me to be perfect and to be the best was just washed away in a moment. >> reporter: within months things got worse. >> i was drinking and using prescription drugs and a lot of cocaine. and it was that thing where i came to a crossroads where it was like i can't use and perform, so something's gotsome
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misspoke and that the cia changed the talking points. later he said it was actually the cia that changed the talking points. it is a bit of a mess and a headache for president obama who defended susan rice today but did not mention libya. >> thank you we want to get back to work. thank you so much, guys. >> can you talk about it at all? >> susan rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job that she has done at the u.n. [ applause ] >> here to talk about it sh, a senior fellow at the foundation of the defense of democracies. also joining us, fran townsend. fran, you have been at the white house when a nominee or potential nominee is in trouble with members of congress, you know when a high stakes meeting this was between ambassador rice and three of her harshest senate critics. usually a lot of preparation goes into a meeting like that. that makes it all the more surprising to me and i'm sure to you that the acting cia director michael morrell would stumble so badly. do you think if it was an innocent mistake it adds fuel to the
misspoke and that the cia changed the talking points. later he said it was actually the cia that changed the talking points. it is a bit of a mess and a headache for president obama who defended susan rice today but did not mention libya. >> thank you we want to get back to work. thank you so much, guys. >> can you talk about it at all? >> susan rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job that she has done at the u.n. [ applause ] >> here to talk about it sh, a...
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later the fbi called the cia and thed cia said no, it was the ca that changed it. it's a story from the gang that can't shoot straight. unfortunately, four americans were killed in theot process. >> you know, i think that the american people certainly are entitled to answers, and yet, you know, all of these hearings seemed to be closed door hearings and the families haven't gotten the answers they want. it's amazing now susan rice is being considered as the secretary of state as hillary clintonta leaves. so is there anything that would cause you to change your mind regarding whether or not she is or shoul should become the secry of state? >> no. again, that's for the senate to vote t on, but no. i called for her resignation back in september. i think i was the first one to do f it. i have the same doubts about her as secretary of state. she has to explain what happened here and why she allowed herself to be used in this way. she's extremely intelligent. i think h in some regards she's had a good record at the un on issues such as north koreaia, a very able person.
later the fbi called the cia and thed cia said no, it was the ca that changed it. it's a story from the gang that can't shoot straight. unfortunately, four americans were killed in theot process. >> you know, i think that the american people certainly are entitled to answers, and yet, you know, all of these hearings seemed to be closed door hearings and the families haven't gotten the answers they want. it's amazing now susan rice is being considered as the secretary of state as hillary...
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and later the cia called back and said it was the cia that changed it. how can you have this? this is a gang that can't shoot straight unfortunately four americans were killed in the process. >> i think the american people certainly are entitled to answers, and yet all of these hearings seem to be closed-door hearings, and the families still haven't gotten the answer they wanted, and it's amazing now, susan rice is being considered as the secretary of state, as hillary clinton leaves. so, is there anything that would cause you to change your mind regarding whether or not she is or should become the secretary of state? >> no. again, that's for the senate to vote on. i had called for her resignation in september. i was the first one to do it. and i have the same doubts for her as secretary of state. she has to explain why she allowed herself to be used. she is extremely intelligent, very able person, but to allow herself to be used and to mislead the american people and the world on such a vital issue, where four americans were killed, and to keep that story for months, and now
and later the cia called back and said it was the cia that changed it. how can you have this? this is a gang that can't shoot straight unfortunately four americans were killed in the process. >> i think the american people certainly are entitled to answers, and yet all of these hearings seem to be closed-door hearings, and the families still haven't gotten the answer they wanted, and it's amazing now, susan rice is being considered as the secretary of state, as hillary clinton leaves. so,...
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. >> i'm more troubled today, knowing, having met with the acting director of the cia, and ambassador rice. [ mother ] you can't leave the table till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8. or...try kids boxes! for their annual football trip. that's double miles you can actually use. tragically, their ddy got sacked by blackouts. but it's our tradition! that's roughing the card holder. but with the capital one venture card you get double miles you can actually use. [ cheering ] any flight, anytime. the scoreboard doesn't lie. what's in your wallet? hut! i have me on my fantasy team. what'a hybrid? most arehut! just no fun to drive. now, here's one that will make you feel alive. meet the five-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c-max says ha. c-max says wheeee. which is what you get, don't you see? cause c-max has lots more horsepower than prius v, a hybrid that c-max also bests in mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. >> sean: earlier today
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but it didn't help. >> i'm more troubled today knowing -- having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. >> reporter: rice did persuade one senator. >> she said what she believed was true. and she was under no political influence from the white house. >> reporter: joe lieberman is quitting the senate and won't have a vote. rice and the president have a special relationship forged during his first campaign. much closer than his cordial working relationship with hillary clinton, the iconic secretary of state rice would be succeeding. the president has made it clear he will fight for rice. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. >> reporter: and today the white house was not backing down. >> the focus on, some might say, obsession on comments made on sunday's shows seems to me and to many to be misplaced. >> reporter: rice told the senator she wanted a chance to clear her name. but later, two of the senators she met with said they would still put a hold on her nomination. that's senate speak for blocking it.
but it didn't help. >> i'm more troubled today knowing -- having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. >> reporter: rice did persuade one senator. >> she said what she believed was true. and she was under no political influence from the white house. >> reporter: joe lieberman is quitting the senate and won't have a vote. rice and the president have a special relationship forged during his first campaign. much closer than his cordial working...
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ambassador and close friend simply told the truth as she was permitted to tell it, what the cia gave her to say and no more. for that he charges susan rice, in the words of the new york post, being fried. political fight fans on the tabloids relish this extreme combat what should be a good person's judgment? that's my question tonight. is susan rice now a surrogate for the president, someone to take the punishment when others above her pay grade should be answering the questions, or is she accountable for going on national television knowing she can't tell the whole truth because it's classified? let's begin with senator susan collins, republican of maine. i guess it's the toughest question in the world, senator, and that is, do you believe that susan rice, the u.n. ambassador, knowingly covered up a breach of national security? >> well, let me say this, chris, our purpose is to understand the security failure in benghazi. what the administration told the american public about it. and how we can learn lessons to keep our personnel safer in the future. so that's my interest and goal i
ambassador and close friend simply told the truth as she was permitted to tell it, what the cia gave her to say and no more. for that he charges susan rice, in the words of the new york post, being fried. political fight fans on the tabloids relish this extreme combat what should be a good person's judgment? that's my question tonight. is susan rice now a surrogate for the president, someone to take the punishment when others above her pay grade should be answering the questions, or is she...
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she was begin unclassified talking points from the cia. look at them and put them in her purse and go rogue and say i think it might have been another thing and speculating on the cause, something we can do. but she has un ambassador, she had to deliver talking points she was given. i don't think it is fair she is blamed for this. >> what do you think of paula broadwell being flirtacious and salacious vamp and same with jill kelly . sexy, and seductive, what do you think about them getting. >> there are two of her. twov her she has a twin. if they were short, fat unattractive people not in the position of power, we would have lost interest in all of my feeling about the petraeus scandal. i feel something when i look at. q. in the end of it, what did it mean? i have yet to see a smoking gun here to be -- just the affair. >> you have the men, two powerful generals, john allen and david petraeus helpless victims to these sirens. >> first of all no one brought up. jill kelly is a narcisist and and publicity hound. insped of going to the f.b.i.
she was begin unclassified talking points from the cia. look at them and put them in her purse and go rogue and say i think it might have been another thing and speculating on the cause, something we can do. but she has un ambassador, she had to deliver talking points she was given. i don't think it is fair she is blamed for this. >> what do you think of paula broadwell being flirtacious and salacious vamp and same with jill kelly . sexy, and seductive, what do you think about them...
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the cia that changed the talking points. as we said last night, it is a bit of a mess and a real headache for president obama who defended susan rice today but did not mention libya. >> all right, guys, thank you. we want to get back to work. >> mr. president, can you care to -- >> thank you so much, guys. >> can you tell us about that? >> susan rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job that she has done. >> here to talk about it, the former cia officer, he is a senior fellow at the defense of democracies, also joining us, national security contributor, fran townsend, president bush's homeland security adviser. currently sits on the advisory committee. fran, you have been at a white house when a nominee or potential nominee has been in trouble. you know what a high stakes meeting this was, yesterday, between ambassador rice and three of her toughest critics. usually a lot of preparation goes into a meeting like this. and it makes me all the more surprised that the acting director, cia director, michael morrell, f
the cia that changed the talking points. as we said last night, it is a bit of a mess and a real headache for president obama who defended susan rice today but did not mention libya. >> all right, guys, thank you. we want to get back to work. >> mr. president, can you care to -- >> thank you so much, guys. >> can you tell us about that? >> susan rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job that she has done. >> here to talk about it, the former cia...
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as a former cia officer, you say her performance raises a red flag. officials are supposed to analyze this information for themselves, but isn't there a danger in having a political appointee like a u.s. ambassador in a sense freelancing when sensitive classified material is concerned? >> no, i don't really think so. ambassador rice could have easily have said that we may have had an organized terrorist group that may have been affiliated with al qaeda behind attack in benghazi, i don't think it would have been compromising of any sincetive information. i think the administration has used that as an excuse. you know, america has a lot of overclassification, no doubt about it. but that's one reason we have adults in senior positions, who are supposed to be able to handle this. i don't really think it would have been all that difficult for her to give a somewhat more nuanced constitution ed explan happened in benghazi. >> you agree with raul? >> normally before a sunday show, the communicators and those who drafted the talking points, this case, perhaps
as a former cia officer, you say her performance raises a red flag. officials are supposed to analyze this information for themselves, but isn't there a danger in having a political appointee like a u.s. ambassador in a sense freelancing when sensitive classified material is concerned? >> no, i don't really think so. ambassador rice could have easily have said that we may have had an organized terrorist group that may have been affiliated with al qaeda behind attack in benghazi, i don't...
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>> well, you have to ask the question, why did it take the cia two months from the attack to finally say we're the one that scrubbed the documents given to her. we really knew all along or there was a terrorist based attack, and i if that's the case we have to find out who knew what, when, why we didn't take action and have the he ability to protect the united states ambassador. >> would you be precise? what exactly do you want to know? >> i want to know why the documents didn't contain the correct information from the beginning, or at least weren't corrected in real-time within a few days of the attack when we knew and have heard testimony the united states knew it was an al qaeda-based attack and was not a spontaneous attack, and why for now almost 11 weeks we sat here with misinformation and slowly but surely getting disclosures, first from clapper, and then secretary of state's office, to decollect attention away from the overall. we need an investigation, the facts on the table, get susan rice off the point of the spear and get the facts before the congress of the united states.
>> well, you have to ask the question, why did it take the cia two months from the attack to finally say we're the one that scrubbed the documents given to her. we really knew all along or there was a terrorist based attack, and i if that's the case we have to find out who knew what, when, why we didn't take action and have the he ability to protect the united states ambassador. >> would you be precise? what exactly do you want to know? >> i want to know why the documents...
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. >> i'm more troubled today, knowing, having met with the acting director of the cia, and ambassador rice. >> joining me now with reaction, fox news contributor liz cheney. that's disturbing, considering -- >> yeah. i think the senators made a good faith effort. ambassador rice asked for the meeting. but the notion that they came out of the session more disturbed than when they went in is really troubling. and this latest shift, you know, this just happened in the last few hours, where apparently the acting director of the cia told the senators that it was the fbi that changed the talking points, that removed the reference to al-qaeda, and he had a reason for it in the meeting. he said it was because they didn't want to hurt an ongoing criminal investigation, and now later today the cia came out and said, well, he misspoke. so it's now the fourth or fifth iteration of who changed the talking points, which isn't something that happens when you're actually telling the truth. >> sean: this is the problem susan rice has and the white house has, is if david petraeus knew instantly, and ch
. >> i'm more troubled today, knowing, having met with the acting director of the cia, and ambassador rice. >> joining me now with reaction, fox news contributor liz cheney. that's disturbing, considering -- >> yeah. i think the senators made a good faith effort. ambassador rice asked for the meeting. but the notion that they came out of the session more disturbed than when they went in is really troubling. and this latest shift, you know, this just happened in the last few...
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cia could do that. >> and we would assume the cia is doing that, right? obviously as we all now are aware, three quarters of the americans that were in libya at the time of the attack actually worked for the cia and not even the state department, right? >> one would hope they're on the case. obviously this is a case of extreme sensitivity. ambassadors don't get killed every day or every year, and it was a bungle. >> are they working together, do you think? so many people have fears, especially now you have petraeus losing his spot at the cia. in part because of work by the fbi. now, that's just a recent case that happened. but are they going to be working together, the way they should be? >> they have been able to work together in the past and they've done great things when they work together but throughout the 65-year history of the cia, they have often been at each other's throats and not cooperating. >> how much pressure is the fbi under to get this right? >> there's a dead american ambassador and three other dead americans in a case of murder, possibl
cia could do that. >> and we would assume the cia is doing that, right? obviously as we all now are aware, three quarters of the americans that were in libya at the time of the attack actually worked for the cia and not even the state department, right? >> one would hope they're on the case. obviously this is a case of extreme sensitivity. ambassadors don't get killed every day or every year, and it was a bungle. >> are they working together, do you think? so many people have...
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laid oillet in a multimedia presentation with drone surveillance and video from the consulate of the cia and annex. >> this is supposed to be sovereign u.s. territory, and if people walk in on us like that without resistance really makes your blood boil because you think to yourself what's the security? >> a video was shown to the committee lastonth, but this is the first time the presentation was made to the entire house. one lawmaker who asked not to be identified who said in the classified naturr of the breech r, the video who assess because the atacker is casual. fox news told james clapper, the nationop intelligence official emphasized, the attacker's motivation uknown, and there was further questions about the obama administration's singular and immediate focus on the anti-islam video? >> why did you just focus on that part for so long rather thansay, look, it's not a black and white issue. >> one of the motivations may very well be either the video, the response to the video in cairo, and, certainly, that's not ruled out. >> fox news has confirmed the decision to shut down the cia
laid oillet in a multimedia presentation with drone surveillance and video from the consulate of the cia and annex. >> this is supposed to be sovereign u.s. territory, and if people walk in on us like that without resistance really makes your blood boil because you think to yourself what's the security? >> a video was shown to the committee lastonth, but this is the first time the presentation was made to the entire house. one lawmaker who asked not to be identified who said in the...
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. >> i'm more troubled today knowing, having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. >> and more convinced than ever that it was unjustified to give the scenario as presented by ambassador rice and president obama before an election. >> the meeting with the senators getting all kinds of media attention and might have pressed for the press to get more from the white house as jay leno noted. >> and this week, cbs news became the first news organization besides fox to ask president obama who changed the benghazi talking points? >> yeah, this is very dangerous for the white house, and suddenly start asking real questions. >> so, what about it, jim, if jay leno is asking that question, does it mean that the press might be finally catching on? >> i think a couple of things are happening here, first of all, the campaign of sort of race baiting against john mccain led by richard wolf and tour, don't forget the accent mark. and the meeting with rice went badly and susan collins prides herself as a moderate thinks worse of you, you've done a bad job on the your presentation. a
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i asked the director of the cia how many analysts are there in the cia. i don't think this is classified. he said 2,500. now, wouldn't you think that one of those analysts would have said, hey, let's call germany where the survivors of the consulate attack have been taken and ask them, was this a spontaneous attack or not? that would have taken care of the whole issue, because they would have said what they did tell the fbi, that there was no mob attack or spontaneous attack there. so all of this could have been resolved with one phone call. i asked the director of the cia, why didn't someone call. he said, because the fbi was conducting a criminal investigation. now, is that reason not to ask the survivors of the attack on the consulate? >> greta: the fbi wasn't even over there investigating the tunisian man in tunisian custody, so it's hard to think the fbi was aggressively investigating this. i've said many times, if there were four dead people in washington, d.c., they'd have more aggressive investigation by the d.c. metropolitan police department. >>
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information the cia told her here's what i think it's appropriate to say of course it's only racism when it's directed toward a a liberal or a democrat it's never racism toward a republican look if this is kind to lisa rice and not susan rice allen would be on the other side of this camera basically suggesting that she deserves either resign or she did something wrong while as you can imagine the obama administration was a little annoyed about so much attention being paid to ambassador rice i was the last thursday's press briefing at the white house and question after question was about susan rice and who knew what when about the benghazi attacks that took place well here was one of white house spokesman jay carney's responses to those barrage of questions and got going to say that this is again what is the point of the focus on this it could have been me it could have been invested rice when i took questions on this too and we all relied on. the information from the intelligence community the focus on the sunday show appearance is entirely misplaced and it represents less interest
information the cia told her here's what i think it's appropriate to say of course it's only racism when it's directed toward a a liberal or a democrat it's never racism toward a republican look if this is kind to lisa rice and not susan rice allen would be on the other side of this camera basically suggesting that she deserves either resign or she did something wrong while as you can imagine the obama administration was a little annoyed about so much attention being paid to ambassador rice i...
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same true of condoleeza rice who passed on incorrect cia information on wmd in iraq but was confirmed as secretary of state. susan rice is closer to the president than anybody in his cabinet and has been over achiever for most of her life. high school valedictorian basketball star rhodes scholar rising star in the clinton administration but also has reputation for blunt talk. >> by all accounts she is talented. capable. the and extremely brisk. >>reporter: she ridiculed hillary clinton foreign policy experience and called john mccain reckless and confused. >> if the president does nominate her those who know her well say she's more than up for the fight. although it would be a bruising confirmation battle she almost certainly would have the votes to be confirmed. this is abc news washington. >>reporter: oregon mother is drawing national attention for giving her 7-year-old daughter medicine marijuana t.she was diagnosed with law chemoia in july. after rupd of chemo doctors said she might need a bone marrow transplant. mother decided to give her about half gram of cannabis oil a day. sh
same true of condoleeza rice who passed on incorrect cia information on wmd in iraq but was confirmed as secretary of state. susan rice is closer to the president than anybody in his cabinet and has been over achiever for most of her life. high school valedictorian basketball star rhodes scholar rising star in the clinton administration but also has reputation for blunt talk. >> by all accounts she is talented. capable. the and extremely brisk. >>reporter: she ridiculed hillary...
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. >> i am more troubled today knowing how they met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. >> senator mccain walked away from that meeting with ambassador rice and acting cia director michael morrell with a sense that at the time of ambassador rice infamous sunday show appearances there was xheling evidence including statements by libyan and some americans that proved there was never a demonstration by a mob mad about a movie. for her heart rice is describing her meeting with the lawmakers like this. she says we explained the talking points by the intelligence community and initial assessment on which it was based were incorrect there was no protest or demonstration in benghazi. while we certainly wish we had perfect information just days after the terrorist attack as is often the case the ingenls assessment has evolved. she said to the lawmakers yesterday neither she nor any one in the obama administration intended to mislead any of the american people at any stage in the process. she is set to tell her story to two more republican senators today. ainsley? >>> thank
. >> i am more troubled today knowing how they met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. >> senator mccain walked away from that meeting with ambassador rice and acting cia director michael morrell with a sense that at the time of ambassador rice infamous sunday show appearances there was xheling evidence including statements by libyan and some americans that proved there was never a demonstration by a mob mad about a movie. for her heart rice is describing her...
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it's clear there was some cia activity there. what exactly it was and what the cia's told involvement was, why there was a consulate there, wasn't even a consulate, didn't do normal consulate duties. what was it all about? by won't know until the investigation is completed and released. >> senator ayotte said when you're an ambassador to the united nations -- i want to get your thoughts on this. she said, look, you go well beyond unclassified talking points in your daily preparation responsibilities. i guess the implication being that she would have been aware of other things that were different or contradicted directly to what she went and said on television. does this cast any doubt on her story? general clark has made what i've heard from everybody who knows her that she is an incredibly honest and forthright person. >> well, i think there's a bigger question here, erin, and that's the credibility of the administration on these national security issues and whether they politicized a national security issue that led to the deat
it's clear there was some cia activity there. what exactly it was and what the cia's told involvement was, why there was a consulate there, wasn't even a consulate, didn't do normal consulate duties. what was it all about? by won't know until the investigation is completed and released. >> senator ayotte said when you're an ambassador to the united nations -- i want to get your thoughts on this. she said, look, you go well beyond unclassified talking points in your daily preparation...
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he's been around the cia. he's now the acting director. all of a sudden, it's the u.n. ambassador's problem that she didn't put together the dossier that was going to be presented. this seems to really have united the democrats. if she is nominated to the secretary of state's position to follow hillary clinton s this a fight worth fighting? >> absolutely. if that's what the president wants, she's qualified. she's very intelligent. she's been a great u.n. ambassador. there's no reason not to fight for her. the theme of your show, democrats are showing some backbone. this is another thing. his plans cannot be hijacked by the man he defeated in 2008, john mccain. this is too important. >> to show you how desperate john mccain is, here he is comparing benghazi to the bin laden raid? >> we knew within hours all the details when we got bin laden in the raid there. every one of them. they are making a movie out of it. here we are ten weeks later and finally our ambassador of the united nations who appeared on every national sunday show has now said she gave false information c
he's been around the cia. he's now the acting director. all of a sudden, it's the u.n. ambassador's problem that she didn't put together the dossier that was going to be presented. this seems to really have united the democrats. if she is nominated to the secretary of state's position to follow hillary clinton s this a fight worth fighting? >> absolutely. if that's what the president wants, she's qualified. she's very intelligent. she's been a great u.n. ambassador. there's no reason not...
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the person who may have had a worst week than her is cia acting director mike morrell. he could end up the real political loser in all this. his confirmation hearing could be the one that is the true proxy fight on all this if he ends up the president's choice to head up the cia which a lot of people say, frankly, he may be. >>> there's another big story out there around the world that will have some political and other ramifications. palestinians go to the united nations today in an attempt to upgrade their status in the eyes of the global community. the u.s. says it won't help its bid to establish a palestinian stateside by side with israel. >> we oppose palestinian efforts to upgrade their status at the u.n. outside of the framework of negotiations to achieve a two-state solution because no matter what happens at the united nations, it will not produce the outcome that this government -- this president and certainly i strongly support. >> nbc's martin fletcher is live for us in tel aviv. martin, it's nothing new that israel ends up losing p.r. battles with the united
the person who may have had a worst week than her is cia acting director mike morrell. he could end up the real political loser in all this. his confirmation hearing could be the one that is the true proxy fight on all this if he ends up the president's choice to head up the cia which a lot of people say, frankly, he may be. >>> there's another big story out there around the world that will have some political and other ramifications. palestinians go to the united nations today in an...
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it really looks like a cia listening station. the kind of security arrangements that were in place were inadequate but it wasn't an embassy. when you build an embassy, there's a formal process about the kinds of materials you use and the setback from the street and the kinds of security measures in place. benghazi, you know, didn't rise to that and as a sort of -- so, you know, there's sort of apples and oranges. but the fact is she's introduced a new line of criticism against ambassador rice. >> do you think it's relevant, peter -- do you think it's relevant the question that susan collins is now raising as part of, let's say the president did say, i want susan rice as my secretary of state, they have the process, they go before and the senators consider her, do you think it's legitimate, this issue that she's brought up now? >> well, a, it was 14 years ago. b, al qaeda unfortunately wasn't deemed to be a significant threat and, c, it's not even clear that she, you know, was in any way responsible for the lack of, you know, move
it really looks like a cia listening station. the kind of security arrangements that were in place were inadequate but it wasn't an embassy. when you build an embassy, there's a formal process about the kinds of materials you use and the setback from the street and the kinds of security measures in place. benghazi, you know, didn't rise to that and as a sort of -- so, you know, there's sort of apples and oranges. but the fact is she's introduced a new line of criticism against ambassador rice....
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so why aren't they saying, we need more information about the cia? we need to know where was the intelligence failure on the part of cia. that seems to me a very reasonable question as opposed to holding responsible she who went on and repeated what those talking points were saying. >> erin, let me bring you in on this. you heard michael, a laundry list of things they could be asking regarding the investigation but you have susan collins and john mccain willing to endorse john kerry. that may be their sincere and honest opinion but why not answer i'm focused on benghazi and the investigation and not potential nominees for secretary of state, both eager to say they would support john kerry. why? >> well, look. republicans are still looking to punish the administration over benghazi. we know that. republicans think that president obama got a pass on benghazi during the election so there's some of that but one thing i would point out to you from senator collins' remarks is that she is still looking for answers from susan rice about a time in 1998 when s
so why aren't they saying, we need more information about the cia? we need to know where was the intelligence failure on the part of cia. that seems to me a very reasonable question as opposed to holding responsible she who went on and repeated what those talking points were saying. >> erin, let me bring you in on this. you heard michael, a laundry list of things they could be asking regarding the investigation but you have susan collins and john mccain willing to endorse john kerry. that...
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michael hirsh said the cia had their own facility there. if the cia was holding prisoners there, they would not want that story coming out? guest: that is right. it has been denied that there were libyan prisoners held at what is believed to be this cia facility or a safe house, but we do not know the truth and we may never know it. host: lloyd, a republican caller. caller: i think they should stop focusing on susan rice, and focus on why i voted the way i did -- was the president aware of requests for additional security? i cannot believe the president of the united states is not briefed on hot spots and why the request would not have made it. let's forget about susan rice. the way i voted the way i did is i do not believe the president was not aware of it. i believe the cover up takes place right there, and now because the president was reelected and i support him fully, he keeps saying focus on me, and that is what they should do, and if there is justice in the world there might be impeachment down the road -- down the road. guest: i did
michael hirsh said the cia had their own facility there. if the cia was holding prisoners there, they would not want that story coming out? guest: that is right. it has been denied that there were libyan prisoners held at what is believed to be this cia facility or a safe house, but we do not know the truth and we may never know it. host: lloyd, a republican caller. caller: i think they should stop focusing on susan rice, and focus on why i voted the way i did -- was the president aware of...
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our cia are out there all over the world but they have to get information. they collect it and analyze it. look at what happened in benghazi. that's another issue. we knew that it was a hot spot, but we didn't have intelligence that they were going to attack. >> greta: therein proves my point. that was another intelligence where we might have the hardest working people in the world, the best in the world but the fact is intelligence failures do happen with even the best. that's why it's very hard to have a lot of sort of comfort in terms of what happens with these, you know, chemical weapons should assad leave. >> no question. >> greta: mistakes happen. >> we can't be the sheriff for the whole world, so we have to work with other countries an other allies. as serious as the situation is in syria, we've got to work with russia. >> greta: let me ask you a quick question. you've actually met president assad. tell me your impression. >> on our way to iraq we had to go -- we were asked to go and stop by to see assad. this was right after, maybe six months after p
our cia are out there all over the world but they have to get information. they collect it and analyze it. look at what happened in benghazi. that's another issue. we knew that it was a hot spot, but we didn't have intelligence that they were going to attack. >> greta: therein proves my point. that was another intelligence where we might have the hardest working people in the world, the best in the world but the fact is intelligence failures do happen with even the best. that's why it's...
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if she had gone ahead, sir, and said the cia -- and revealed al qaeda, right? the change in the script essentially, the talking points. don't say al qaeda, say extremists. if she had gone ahead and said i know some classified information, let's say al qaeda, wouldn't that have been even more devastating? wouldn't that have been a bigger problem? wouldn't they be after her for that today? >> well, the truth is always what should be told. the truth and the knowledge of the truth is what everybody should represent, regardless of the consequences of doing it. >> so i guess i don't hear the same calls for the head of someone. i don't hear the same frustration with the cia, which has said that they were the ones who wrote the talking points. i don't hear the same frustration even with the president who said the buck stops with him. i don't hear the same frustration with hillary clinton. will you, in fact -- or even general petraeus, now that this scandal has cost him -- another scandal has cost him his job. it all seems to be falling in the lap of the ambassador of t
if she had gone ahead, sir, and said the cia -- and revealed al qaeda, right? the change in the script essentially, the talking points. don't say al qaeda, say extremists. if she had gone ahead and said i know some classified information, let's say al qaeda, wouldn't that have been even more devastating? wouldn't that have been a bigger problem? wouldn't they be after her for that today? >> well, the truth is always what should be told. the truth and the knowledge of the truth is what...
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left fox news off when they wanted to brief them the day before the people went to capitol hill many cia had a briefing, fox left out. memo released by the intelligence and who didn't get the memo? fox news. all these other news organizations will eventually give it us to. they are trying to punish fox because we dare to ask them questions what are the facts on four murders and the more you try to hide it when 71 to 72 to 73 days still not getting the answer, it is reasonable to be suspicious you are trying to hide something. tell us and that will end it. >> and the american people need to understand this benghazi tragedy is just one example of what the greater problem is with this lack of transparency this distrustfulness of our own government, benghazi is a prime example of it. it leads you to believe and to know that there are many other deceptions that are a part of this white house and the mode of operation in washington go coney island -- washington, d.c.. >> if there's a reasonable explanation for any of the confusion, tell us, lay it out don't give us more silly stuff, don't hide
left fox news off when they wanted to brief them the day before the people went to capitol hill many cia had a briefing, fox left out. memo released by the intelligence and who didn't get the memo? fox news. all these other news organizations will eventually give it us to. they are trying to punish fox because we dare to ask them questions what are the facts on four murders and the more you try to hide it when 71 to 72 to 73 days still not getting the answer, it is reasonable to be suspicious...
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at 4:00 in the afternoon the cia acting director came back and said it was at cia after all. what explains that? >> this stuff is coming from the white house. they are hoping this will go away. i don't happen to be one of the senators she cares to talk about and maybe it's because while opposed to her from her position as ambassador of the united nations and nothing could change my mind on that. bill: based on that answer it appears you are willing to take that answer higher than susan rice with it comes to benghazi. >> this will go down as the biggest coverup in history. they all knew it. they are hoping to have it go beyond the election date which it did. but people are not going to forget it. the administration deliberately covered this and misrepresented what happened in benghazi threatened up in the both of four people. one of whom was a good friend of mine, ambassador stevens. bill: the biggest coverup in american history. >> yes, sir. bill: when senator lieberman came out yesterday afternoon --'s listed as an independent. but he seemed to take more of a sill sill tory
at 4:00 in the afternoon the cia acting director came back and said it was at cia after all. what explains that? >> this stuff is coming from the white house. they are hoping this will go away. i don't happen to be one of the senators she cares to talk about and maybe it's because while opposed to her from her position as ambassador of the united nations and nothing could change my mind on that. bill: based on that answer it appears you are willing to take that answer higher than susan...
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. >> i am more troubled today, after meeting with the director of the cia and ambassador rice because it's essential clear from the beginning that we knew that those with ties to al qaeda were involved in the attack on the embassy. >> i specifically asked her whether at any point prior to going on the sunday morning television show, she was briefed or... urged to say certain things by anybody in the white house, relate to the campaign or political operations. she said, no, she was not given messaging points at all by the white house, prior to her appearance on those sunday morning shows. >> it is clear that the informs that she gave the american people was incorrect when she said that it was a spontaneous demonstration ib spired by a hateful video. it was not. and there was compelling evidence at the time that that was certainly not the case. >> bottom line, i am more disturbed now than i was before the 16th september... explanation about how four americans died in benghazi, libya, by ambassador rice. i think it does not do justice to the reality at the time and in hindsight, clearly
. >> i am more troubled today, after meeting with the director of the cia and ambassador rice because it's essential clear from the beginning that we knew that those with ties to al qaeda were involved in the attack on the embassy. >> i specifically asked her whether at any point prior to going on the sunday morning television show, she was briefed or... urged to say certain things by anybody in the white house, relate to the campaign or political operations. she said, no, she was...